George Runciman1,2

(circa 1835 - 27 Jan 1907)
Father*George Runciman1,3,4 (bet. 1808 - 1816 - May 1878)
Mother*Mary McKellar3,4 (say 1813 - bet. 1845 - 1860)

BDMs

     George Runciman was born circa 1835 Glasgow, LKS, SCT.1 He and Mary Davidson were in a de facto relationship say 1853 ?Kilsyth, STI, SCT.2,5,6
     George Runciman married Margaret Wallace, daughter of William Wallace, on 9 Mar 1860 in the Par. of Lochgoilhead, ARL, SCT, cert. shows George as 21, (or poss. 24) blacksmith (master) resid. ?alt?s Land, Kilsyth, s/o George RUNCIMAN, blacksmith master & Mary m.s. McINTYRE (dec'd); Margaret 21 resid. Cairndour Par. of Kilmorich, d/o William WALLACE, joiner master & Martha m.s. EWING; Wit: John LANG and ? MacIVOR.7,8,3,4
     George Runciman died on 27 Jan 1907 in the Eastern Dist. Hosp., Glasgow, Dist of Dennistoun, LKS, SCT; cert. shows George as 68 blacksmith journeyman marr. to Margaret WALLACE; s/o George RUNCIMAN, blacksmith & Mary m.s. McINTYRE (NB brother Malcolm's death shows his mother as McKELLAR, which marriage can be found), both dec'd; d 3:30pm of chronic bronchitis, retention of urine; usu. resid. 58 Tennant St; Inf. dtr Jane ALLAN, 8 Caledonian St, reg. 28th.4,9
How many blacksmiths named George RUNCIMAN, living around Kilsyth and Glasgow, were there?
This journey started with the family of Andrew Davidson Learmount RUNCIMAN, whose daughter-in-law's 1976 letter is transcribed on the RUNCIMAN Mailing list.
The main evidence for the identification of George made on these pages is the mention of an Uncle Malcolm who named his daughter Poona after where she was born (in India).
With a name Poona, Malcolm was easily identified as the son of George and Mary McKELLAR - or McINTYRE, depending on whose death certificate you believe. McKELLAR by Malcolm's, McINTYRE from his brother George's. The McKELLAR seems more likely correct given there is an appropriate marriage for a George and Mary McKELLAR in Glasgow.

But where did Andrew fit?
Andrew's marriage and death certificates both name his parents as George RUNCIMAN, blacksmith, and Mary maiden surname DAVIDSON.
The only immediately matching census information initially found however, was 1901, so where was he earlier?

Switching attention to tracking Mary however provided the necessary leads, once Sandra had found her marriage to a James CUNNINGHAM in 1876 - as a widow shown as DAVIDSON or RUNCIMAN, power loom weaver, X her mark.
There was Andrew, with mother Mary, and his new step father James in 1881 shown as born around 1865.

Armed with Mary's age and mother's name, she was now easily found in Kilsyth with her mother in 1841. With a few additional surprises.
The records show a family of RUNCIMAN children living with their grandmother Mary DAVIDSON (nee McDONALD) in the Parish of Kilsyth (Stirlingshire) in 1851 (Banton: John aged 2), and 1861 (High Banton:John aged 12, Mary 6, Ann 2).
Mary Snr's daughter Mary is with her in 1841 and 1851, which latter shows her as an unmarried power loom weaver born Inveresk (Musselburgh).

By 1871 son John is likely to be the engineer in West Derby, Lancashire. Daughter Mary RUNCIMAN has married an Adam MORRISON in Calton Glasgow and has a brother with her, Andrew RUNCIMAN, aged 7, born Glasgow (misindexed on both FindmyPast and ancestry as RUNCLEMORE and KNUDMORE respectively, so we can be forgiven for missing him in 1871 intiially). Ann and mother Mary yet to be found in the 1871 census.

Casting doubt on the identification of this George RUNCIMAN as the father of John, Mary, Ann and Andrew RUNCIMAN, with mother Mary DAVIDSON, is that George married Margaret WALLACE in 1860, but Andrew was born to Mary DAVIDSON in 1863.
Andrew's 1863 birth was registered in Bridgeton, Glasgow, and George & Margaret's short-lived son William's 1863 birth was registered in Sprinburn, so by 1863 both "families" were definitely in Glasgow rather than Kilsyth, and back in 1860, George was in Kilsyth, where Ann had been born the year before.

The only other serious candidate among RUNCIMANs of the area and timeframes known to date, is this George's father, also a blacksmith, and apparently widowed between 1845 when Malcolm was born, and 1851.
George Snr died in 1878, which isn't reflected in the 1849 John's 1879 marriage certificate, which does not show his father George as deceased, and adds to the fiction of Mary describing herself as "widow" when she married James CUNNINGHAM in 1876.
Andrew's 1892 marriage certificate did describe his father George as deceased.
Poor George Jnr! He didn't die until 1907.

Some peripheral doubts on the id are also cast by Ann's 1892 marriage cert. which gives her father as John RUNCIMAN, blacksmith (her 1940 death index shows her father as James!).
Hopefully someone with access to the Kirk Session Records for Kilsyth (John, Mary & Ann), and the appropriate part of Glasgow (Andrew) may be able to shed some light on this, given Mary's children are all recorded on FamilySearch extracted as DAVIDSON, with no father listed.
Which does appear to be a bit misleading in that John and Mary's births as recorded in the Kilsyth Parish Registers on a page of mixed dates, grouped by families, with John given a surname CAMPBELL, and Mary shown as DAVIDSON.
Andrew's 1863 birth cert. simply describes him as the illegitimate son of Mary DAVIDSON, power loom weaver, X her mark, and has a blank space for Father.
John's identity is further obfuscated in that although he married and died as RUNCIMAN, census data for 1881, 1891, and 1901 all record him as John R GRAY/GREY.
This family is determined to make life "interesting" for researchers.10,11,12,13,2,14,15,16,3

Census

     The census of 1851 showed George and Malcolm and their sisters Sarah and Catherine in the household of their father George Eastside St, Kirkintilloch, DNB, SCT, enumerated as RUNCIMAN: George 38 Smith master emp man & boy b Stirling, STI; Children: George 16 smith (ap) b Glasgow, LKS; Malcolm 6 scholar b Denny STI; Sarah 14 scholar b Campin (?Campsie), STI; Catharine 10 scholar b Glasgow; Lodger 20 smith b IRL.1
     The census of 1861 showed George and his sister Catherine in the household of his father George Colgrain Hamlet, Cardross, DNB, SCT, enumerated as RUNCIMAN: George 53 b St Ninians, STI; Children: Catherine 19 b Glasgow, George 26 blacksmith journeyman b Glasgow; dtr in law Margaret 22 b Kilmorich, Argyleshire; George 11 wks b Cardross.17
     The census of 1871 showed George with his wife Margaret, their dtr Mary 19 Dobbie Loan, Glasgow Inner High, Central Dist, LKS, SCT, household enumerated as RUNCIMAN: George Sr 32 jobbing blacksmith b Glasgow, LKS; wife Margaret 31 b Cairnow, AYR; Dtr Mary 1 b Glasgow.18
     The census of 1881 showed George with his wife Margaret, their dtrs Mary and Robina 107 Kennedy St 1st floor, Glasgow Barony, Dist of St Rollox, LKS, SCT, household enumerated as RUNCIMAN: Geo. 38 blacksmith jobbing b Glasgow; wife Margt 35 b Glasgow; Children: Mary 11, Jane 8, both scholars, Robina 3 Geo 8 mos, all b Glasgow.19
     The census of 1891 showed George with his wife Margaret, their dtrs Jane and Robina 3 Hartfield St, Glasgow Barony, Dist of St Rollox, LKS, SCT, household enumerated as RUNCIMAN: George blacksmith b Glasgow, LKS; wife Margt 52 b Inverway, Argyllshire; Children: Jane 19 lithographess, Robina 14 scholar both b Glasgow.7
     The census of 1901 showed George with his wife Margaret, their dtr Robina 58 Tennant St, Glasgow Martyrs, Dist of St Rollox, LKS, SCT, household enumerated as RUNCIMAN: George 61 blacksmith b Glasgow, LKS; wife Margaret 58 b Cairndow, Argyleshire; Dtr: Robina 22 machinist b Glasgow.20

Names/other info

     George and Margaret were predeceased by their son William Runciman in 1863.21 George and Margaret were also predeceased in 1868 by their son George and in the same year, another short-lived son John, along with a 4 yr old Catherine.22
     George Runciman was the informant for the death of his father George Runciman on 8 May 1878 Royal Infirmary, Glasgow, Dist of Dennistoun, LKS, SCT.1,23

Links

     Click here to see George's page on WikiTree, a (free) collaborative on-line tree.24

Family 1

Mary Davidson (circa 1830 - Mar 1900)
The family relationships shown here should be treated with caution, despite what their marriage and death certs show.9 
Children
  • Mary Runciman25 (Jan 1854 - aft. 1926)
  • Ann Runciman13,26,9,3 (Sep 1859 - 1940)
  • Andrew Davidson Learmont Runciman2 (Jul 1863 - Oct 1910)

Family 2

Margaret Wallace (circa 1839 - 1912)
Children
  • George Runciman17 (circa Dec 1860 - 1868)
  • William Runciman27 (Aug 1863 - 1863)
  • Catherine Runciman28 (Nov 1864 - 1868)
  • John Runciman29 (Jun 1868 - 1868)
  • Mary Runciman19 (circa 1870 - aft. 1881)
  • Jane Runciman19 (Apr 1872 - 1952)
  • Robina Runciman19 (1877 - aft. 1901)
  • George Robertson Runciman19 (circa Aug 1880 - 1885)
ChartsJohn & Mary (McPHERSON) RUNCIMAN
Last Edited3 Nov 2012

Citations

  1. [S203] 1851 Census transcripts, Scotland, via Ancestry.com, Kirkintilloch, DNB Par 498 ED 4 Pg 12 Sched 36, hsehold of George RUNCIMAN, extracted Mar 2010.
  2. [S56] Scottish BMDB entries (from 1855), http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.php, Marr. 31 Dec 1891 (reg. 1892) Andrew Davidson s/o George RUNCIMAN & Mary DAVIDSON; Margaret C H d/o George HUNTER & Jeanie Gray? HALLIDAY nee HUNTER; reg. Bothwell, LKS 625/1 #13, copy d/loaded Dec 2010.
  3. [S56] Scottish BMDB entries (from 1855), http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.php, Marr. 9 Mar 1860 George RUNCIMAN & Margaret WALLACE, Lochgoilhead Inn, ARL, 527/00 Pg 1 0001, copy d/loaded Mar 2010.
  4. [S56] Scottish BMDB entries (from 1855), http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.php, Dth 27 Jan 1907 George RUNCIMAN, Dist of Dennistoun, Burgh of Glasgow, LKS 644/04 Pg 47 #140, copy d/loaded Apr 2010.
  5. [S1599] Findmypast online at http://www.findmypast.com, 1851 Village Of Banton, Kilsyth, STI, hsehold of Mary DAVIDSON, extracted Sep 2012.
  6. [S55] Scottish BMDB entries (to 1854), http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.php, Birth 1 Jan 1854 Mary d/o Mary DAVIDSON, Banton, Kilsyth, STI, 483/00 0070 0323, copy d/loaded (for brother John) Sep 2012.
  7. [S212] 1891 Census transcripts, Scotland, via Ancestry.com, Glasgow Barony, Dist St Rollox, LKS Reg. 644/6 ED 43 Pg 2 Sched 8 hsehold of George & Margt RUNCIMAN, extracted Mar 2010.
  8. [S1596] Online search: assorted surnames, International Genealogical Index (IGI), Marr. 9 Mar 1860 George RUNCIMAN & Margaret WALLACE, batch M115271 Lochgoilhead & Kilmorich, ARL, extracted Mar 2010.
  9. [S3] Lorna Henderson, "RUNCIMAN Analysis", Sep 2012.
  10. [S3] Lorna Henderson, "RUNCIMAN Analysis", Dec 2010, updated Sep 2012.
  11. [S2333] Rootsweb Msge Board online at http://boards.rootsweb.com, Letter Nov 1976 from Rachel C RUNCIMAN nee DOHERTY, (Weensmoor Road, Glasgow) to Ros RUNCIMAN, transcr. posted to RUNCIMAN board, Mar 2001, online at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/runciman/…, extracted Dec 2010.
  12. [S56] Scottish BMDB entries (from 1855), http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.php, Dth 26 Oct 1926 Malcolm s/o George RUNCIMAN & Mary McKELLAR, h/o Elizabeth REYNOLDS, reg. Govan, Glasgow, LKS 644/21 #1070, copy d/loaded Sep 2012.
  13. [S56] Scottish BMDB entries (from 1855), http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.php, Marr. 23 Sep 1892 Annie d/o John RUNCIMAN & Mary DAVIDSON; Hector Mack s/o John BLAIR & Jane CAMERON, Haggs, STI 476/02 #9, extracted Sep 2012.
  14. [S56] Scottish BMDB entries (from 1855), http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.php, Marr. 13 Jul 1876 Mary DAVIDSON or RUNCIMAN, d/o John DAVIDSON & Mary McDONALD; James s/o Archibald CUNNINGHAM & Agnes CRAWFORD, Pollockshaws, Par. of Eastwood, LKS, 562 #64, copy d/loaded Sep 2012.
  15. [S56] Scottish BMDB entries (from 1855), http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.php, Marr. 6 Jan 1879 John s/o George RUNCIMAN & Mary DAVIDSON; Annie Allen d/o Robert YOUNG & Elizabeth WATSON, St Rollox, LKS, 644/06 #35, copy d/loaded Sep 2012.
  16. [S55] Scottish BMDB entries (to 1854), http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.php, Birth 4 Apr 1849 John CAMPBELL, s/o Mary DAVIDSON, Banton, Kilsyth, STI, 483/00 0070 0323, copy d/loaded Sep 2012.
  17. [S205] 1861 Census transcripts, Scotland, via Ancestry.com, Cardross, DNB Reg. 494 ED 3 Pg 10 Sched 47, hsehold of George RUNCIMAN, extracted Mar 2010.
  18. [S207] 1871 Census transcripts, Scotland, via Ancestry.com, Civil Par. Glasgow Inner High, Central Dist, LKS Reg. 644/1 ED 67 Pg 4 Sched 19, hsehold of George (Sr) & Margaret RUNCIMAN, extracted Apr 2010.
  19. [S209] 1881 Census transcripts, Scotland, via Ancestry.com, Glasgow Barony, Dist St Rollox, LKS reg. 644/6 ED 36 Pg 12 Sched 52, hseholf of Geo. & Margt RUNCIMAN, extracted Apr 2010.
  20. [S214] 1901 Census transcripts, Scotland, via http://Ancestry.com, Glasgow Martyrs, Dist St Rollox, LKS Reg. 644/6 ED 36 Pg 12 Sched 70 hsehold of George & Margaret RUNCIMAN, extracted Mar 2010.
  21. [S2970] Births deaths marriages index: Scotland 1855+, Dth 1863 William RUNCIMAN, Dist of Glasgow Central, LKS, aged 0, mother name WALLACE, 644/01 1793, extracted from index Sep 2012 , http://scotlandspeople.gov.uk
  22. [S2970] Births deaths marriages index: Scotland 1855+, Dth 1868 George RUNCIMAN, aged 7, reg. Glasgow Central, LKS, 644/01 1703, extracted from index Sep 2012 , http://scotlandspeople.gov.uk
  23. [S56] Scottish BMDB entries (from 1855), http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.php, Dth 8 May 1878 George s/o John RUNCIMAN & Mary McPHERSON, wid/o Mary McKELLAR, aged 62, Royal Infirmary Glasgow, Dennistoun, LKS 644/03 #771, copy d/loaded Apr 2010.
  24. [S3217] WikiTree online at http://WikiTree.com/, Oct-11.
  25. [S56] Scottish BMDB entries (from 1855), http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/index.php, Marr. 18 Nov 1870 Mary d/o George RUNCIMAN & Mary DAVIDSON; Adam s/o Walter MORRISON & Mary BURNETT, Calton, LKS 644/4 #388, copy d/loaded Sep 2012.
  26. [S5] Ancestry.com online at http://search.ancestry.com, Dth 1940 Annie BLAIR, d/o Jas RUCIMEN (sic) & Mary DAVIDSON, Caulfield, VIC, #6254, aged 81, from Australia Death Index, 1787-1985, extracted Sep 2012.
  27. [S1597] FamilySearch Labs Record Search (LDS) online at http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/, Birth 18 Aug 1863 William s/o George RUNCIMAN & Margaret WALLACE, Dist of Glasgow Central, LKS, from Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 batch C11915-1 film 6035516, extracted Sep 2012.
  28. [S1597] FamilySearch Labs Record Search (LDS) online at http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/, Birth 21 Nov 1864 Catherine d/o George RUNCIMAN & Margaret WALLACE, Dist of Glasgow Central, LKS, from Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 batch C11915-1 film 6035516, extracted Sep 2012.
  29. [S1597] FamilySearch Labs Record Search (LDS) online at http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/, Birth 20 Jun 1868 John s/o George RUNCIMAN & Margaret WALLACE, Dist of Glasgow Central, LKS, from Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 batch C11644-1 film 6035516, extracted Sep 2012.
 
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