John Runciman?1,2

(bet. 1775 - 1783 - )
Father*Alexander Runciman (Scottish artist)1,3 (Aug 1736 - Oct 1785)
Mother*Female UnknownSurname1 (say 1750 - aft. 1785)


     John Runciman? was born bet. 1775 - 1783 prob. Edinburgh, MLN, SCT, Date a guess from knowing three snippets of information - father Alexander was back in Edinburgh by 1771 to take over the Academy of Drawing in the College of Edinburgh, that he was "an infant" when Alexander died in 1785, and by 1802 John had gone to London "some years since", as a silversmith.1,4,2
Anyone know of any John, silversmith in London, who may or may not have a surname RUNCIMAN?
Or have kept a catalogue of the mistresses of the artist Alexander RUNCIMAN's agent ROSS, so we can determine John's mother's name?
Alan quotes a ‘Biographical Sketch of Alexander Runciman’ which appeared in The Scots Magazine, Sunday 1st August 1802, page 622. “He was never married, but had a natural son named John, who was bred a silversmith, and went to London some years since.”

Alan also recalls having read that shortly after his death there was a request made to one of the Arts bodies to provide some financial support to his mistress and ‘young son’ which was dismissed with little sympathy. Which turns out to be a footnote in a book on masculinity in British art 1750-1810 - and also refers to a nephew of Alexander's.5,4,2
Last Edited5 Dec 2014


  1. [S2729] MyHeritage Family Trees online at, Existance of John, son of Alexander RUNCIMAN, painter, and ex mistress of his agent ROSS,…, extracted May 2013.
  2. [S2868] Google Books online at, 1785 Son & nephew of Alexander RUNCIMAN, artist, from "Body Building: reforming masculinities in British art 1750-1810" by Martin Myrone, ISBN 0-300-11005-7, Pg 346 Note 49, extracted May 2013.
  3. [S2868] Google Books online at, 1785 Son & nephew of Alexander RUNCIMAN, artist, from "Body Building: reforming masculinities in British art 1750-1810" by Martin Myrone, ISBN 0-300-11005-7, Pg 346 Note 49, extracted (thanks to Alan R) May 2013.
  4. [S2868] Google Books online at, John natural son of Alexander RUNCIMAN artist, from '‘Biographical Sketch of Alexander Runciman' from The Scots Magazine, Sunday 1 Aug 1802, pg 622, extracted May 2013.
  5. [S2729] MyHeritage Family Trees online at, 1802 John, natural son of Alexander RUNCIMAN, "bred a silversmith, went to London some years since", from ‘Biographical Sketch of Alexander Runciman' appearing in The Scots Magazine, Sunday 1 Aug 1802, transcr. extracted May 2013.
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